1 00:00:06,710 --> 00:00:04,309 yeah have you received any reports 2 00:00:08,310 --> 00:00:06,720 uh monday on a ufo sighting in the uh 3 00:00:11,350 --> 00:00:08,320 downey 4 00:00:13,110 --> 00:00:11,360 lakewood area 5 00:00:14,629 --> 00:00:13,120 no sir did you see something well my 6 00:00:16,470 --> 00:00:14,639 little girl and her classmates saw it 7 00:00:17,910 --> 00:00:16,480 and then i found well this is monday 8 00:00:19,910 --> 00:00:17,920 when they saw 9 00:00:21,670 --> 00:00:19,920 they were playing at a school 10 00:00:24,950 --> 00:00:21,680 and 11 00:00:26,550 --> 00:00:24,960 then i heard from other people 12 00:00:28,230 --> 00:00:26,560 who also 13 00:00:29,750 --> 00:00:28,240 my mother-in-law who teaches 14 00:00:31,589 --> 00:00:29,760 different people in her class were 15 00:00:33,510 --> 00:00:31,599 talking about it but my little girl and 16 00:00:35,110 --> 00:00:33,520 her classmates 17 00:00:37,110 --> 00:00:35,120 got the 18 00:00:37,830 --> 00:00:37,120 they came right down over their school 19 00:00:39,270 --> 00:00:37,840 and 20 00:00:41,430 --> 00:00:39,280 they were able to 21 00:00:42,630 --> 00:00:41,440 make drawings of it 22 00:00:44,389 --> 00:00:42,640 and 23 00:00:46,549 --> 00:00:44,399 this was monday around oh i would guess 24 00:00:47,910 --> 00:00:46,559 around 11 o'clock 11 30 25 00:00:50,389 --> 00:00:47,920 and uh 26 00:00:51,750 --> 00:00:50,399 we're in a apartment complex right 27 00:00:53,510 --> 00:00:51,760 practice practically right behind the 28 00:00:55,350 --> 00:00:53,520 school 29 00:00:57,029 --> 00:00:55,360 and uh 30 00:01:01,830 --> 00:00:57,039 on monday at 31 00:01:02,549 --> 00:01:01,840 i say between 11 11 30 uh a vibration 32 00:01:05,670 --> 00:01:02,559 uh 33 00:01:07,830 --> 00:01:05,680 kind of started in the apartment 34 00:01:08,950 --> 00:01:07,840 uh in which we're we're living i don't 35 00:01:10,710 --> 00:01:08,960 know if it was felt throughout the rest 36 00:01:12,630 --> 00:01:10,720 of the units but anyway the the 37 00:01:14,710 --> 00:01:12,640 apartment in which we're living 38 00:01:17,270 --> 00:01:14,720 start to vibrate and i didn't connect it 39 00:01:19,429 --> 00:01:17,280 too until she told us the uh 40 00:01:21,429 --> 00:01:19,439 told us of this uh 41 00:01:23,190 --> 00:01:21,439 well she described it and she told us 42 00:01:25,109 --> 00:01:23,200 that evening monday evening about it and 43 00:01:26,550 --> 00:01:25,119 i happen to think of that vibration 44 00:01:28,149 --> 00:01:26,560 which i couldn't 45 00:01:30,710 --> 00:01:28,159 account for because when it started when 46 00:01:32,630 --> 00:01:30,720 it when it started i it wasn't caused by 47 00:01:34,390 --> 00:01:32,640 anything i could 48 00:01:35,749 --> 00:01:34,400 relate it to 49 00:01:38,149 --> 00:01:35,759 and 50 00:01:40,390 --> 00:01:38,159 so so anyway i was curious because she 51 00:01:42,630 --> 00:01:40,400 she wasn't the first one to see it some 52 00:01:44,230 --> 00:01:42,640 of her classmates saw it and then then 53 00:01:45,350 --> 00:01:44,240 our little girl saw it and she's seven 54 00:01:47,910 --> 00:01:45,360 she 55 00:01:49,109 --> 00:01:47,920 it 56 00:01:50,469 --> 00:01:49,119 and 57 00:01:54,950 --> 00:01:50,479 the stories 58 00:01:57,830 --> 00:01:54,960 all corroborate 59 00:01:59,910 --> 00:01:57,840 so i called the school and they uh 60 00:02:01,990 --> 00:01:59,920 to ask if there was any if the children 61 00:02:04,469 --> 00:02:02,000 had been talking about it and they said 62 00:02:06,230 --> 00:02:04,479 no no they not to their knowledge 63 00:02:09,510 --> 00:02:06,240 but they did talk to the 64 00:02:11,430 --> 00:02:09,520 girls i saw it 65 00:02:13,270 --> 00:02:11,440 okay what uh what kind of description 66 00:02:15,030 --> 00:02:13,280 did they give well see 67 00:02:16,390 --> 00:02:15,040 the way the way friday it was that they 68 00:02:17,750 --> 00:02:16,400 were playing 69 00:02:20,869 --> 00:02:17,760 and 70 00:02:22,790 --> 00:02:20,879 it's the 71 00:02:25,830 --> 00:02:22,800 elementary school and they 72 00:02:27,510 --> 00:02:25,840 the one classmate 73 00:02:29,270 --> 00:02:27,520 called the other 74 00:02:32,710 --> 00:02:29,280 other children's attention to it and she 75 00:02:34,550 --> 00:02:32,720 said it was like a big silver ball 76 00:02:36,470 --> 00:02:34,560 and she said it was she said was as 77 00:02:39,030 --> 00:02:36,480 bright as the sun seemed to be as bright 78 00:02:40,949 --> 00:02:39,040 as the sun it was coming 79 00:02:43,190 --> 00:02:40,959 and it was over the school 80 00:02:45,350 --> 00:02:43,200 and on that on that day monday it was 81 00:02:47,830 --> 00:02:45,360 the visibility here was perfect the sky 82 00:02:48,790 --> 00:02:47,840 was blue there was there were no clouds 83 00:02:50,630 --> 00:02:48,800 and uh 84 00:02:52,229 --> 00:02:50,640 and it was a unusually clear condition 85 00:02:53,670 --> 00:02:52,239 there was no smog 86 00:02:55,509 --> 00:02:53,680 and she said that 87 00:02:56,869 --> 00:02:55,519 and she said it's like a big silver ball 88 00:03:00,229 --> 00:02:56,879 and then she said 89 00:03:02,630 --> 00:03:00,239 it was surrounded by rings of color 90 00:03:04,790 --> 00:03:02,640 and she said it was like trying to come 91 00:03:06,149 --> 00:03:04,800 down to us and 92 00:03:07,830 --> 00:03:06,159 she then said 93 00:03:09,509 --> 00:03:07,840 in the center of it there appeared 94 00:03:12,309 --> 00:03:09,519 another bright sun she said a real 95 00:03:14,470 --> 00:03:12,319 bright sun in the center of it 96 00:03:17,509 --> 00:03:14,480 and that got real bright 97 00:03:18,949 --> 00:03:17,519 and at that point they became frightened 98 00:03:21,750 --> 00:03:18,959 so i said how large was it she said it 99 00:03:23,990 --> 00:03:21,760 was about as large as a street 100 00:03:25,589 --> 00:03:24,000 well she meant as as large as a street 101 00:03:28,229 --> 00:03:25,599 as wide i guess 102 00:03:30,630 --> 00:03:28,239 and we took her to the school and 103 00:03:33,270 --> 00:03:30,640 and on the school playground like they 104 00:03:36,309 --> 00:03:33,280 had these um areas 105 00:03:37,910 --> 00:03:36,319 more stenciled out on the on a paving 106 00:03:40,550 --> 00:03:37,920 for games and so forth and there's a 107 00:03:41,509 --> 00:03:40,560 very large circle and the circle must be 108 00:03:43,910 --> 00:03:41,519 at least 109 00:03:45,509 --> 00:03:43,920 30 feet in diameter and i said now was 110 00:03:47,589 --> 00:03:45,519 it as large as this circle she says oh 111 00:03:48,470 --> 00:03:47,599 yeah she was bigger than that and she 112 00:03:50,869 --> 00:03:48,480 said 113 00:03:52,550 --> 00:03:50,879 they stayed there and it was 114 00:03:54,309 --> 00:03:52,560 watching them she pushed she said it was 115 00:03:55,509 --> 00:03:54,319 watching them so i said well what 116 00:03:57,750 --> 00:03:55,519 happened then she said well the school 117 00:03:59,190 --> 00:03:57,760 bell rang and we went in 118 00:04:01,190 --> 00:03:59,200 and she said i looked over my shoulders 119 00:04:03,750 --> 00:04:01,200 to look at it again and she said she 120 00:04:06,789 --> 00:04:03,760 said it will probably come back tomorrow 121 00:04:10,470 --> 00:04:06,799 so we questioned the other girl 122 00:04:11,589 --> 00:04:10,480 and the story is the same with them and 123 00:04:13,509 --> 00:04:11,599 it's a dangerous thing so my 124 00:04:15,190 --> 00:04:13,519 mother-in-law was at class 125 00:04:16,550 --> 00:04:15,200 the other day and they were talking 126 00:04:20,229 --> 00:04:16,560 about 127 00:04:21,189 --> 00:04:20,239 what 128 00:04:25,590 --> 00:04:21,199 they were talking about more than the 129 00:04:26,950 --> 00:04:25,600 same thing you know a ufo sighting and 130 00:04:28,469 --> 00:04:26,960 so i call the police department see if 131 00:04:30,550 --> 00:04:28,479 there were any reports but it was this 132 00:04:32,550 --> 00:04:30,560 was monday night now so she said you'd 133 00:04:33,590 --> 00:04:32,560 have to call back earlier 134 00:04:35,510 --> 00:04:33,600 tomorrow 135 00:04:38,310 --> 00:04:35,520 so and they gave me your number so the 136 00:04:39,830 --> 00:04:38,320 thing that puzzles me is that that 137 00:04:41,830 --> 00:04:39,840 the kids were able to describe this 138 00:04:43,510 --> 00:04:41,840 thing and oh yeah they were i said well 139 00:04:44,950 --> 00:04:43,520 what were these rings coming out from it 140 00:04:47,030 --> 00:04:44,960 she said well they were like the colors 141 00:04:49,430 --> 00:04:47,040 in the rainbow and then she said she 142 00:04:50,550 --> 00:04:49,440 said no she said they were colored but 143 00:04:53,749 --> 00:04:50,560 they weren't like the rainbow but there 144 00:04:55,110 --> 00:04:53,759 were two rings and they came out from it 145 00:04:56,710 --> 00:04:55,120 and uh 146 00:04:58,230 --> 00:04:56,720 i said now this bright stone that came 147 00:04:59,830 --> 00:04:58,240 out out of the center of it i said was 148 00:05:01,670 --> 00:04:59,840 it bill all the time she said no she 149 00:05:04,469 --> 00:05:01,680 says when it wasn't there before there 150 00:05:07,350 --> 00:05:04,479 was just like a big gray area 151 00:05:09,749 --> 00:05:07,360 so it's a it's just an amazing thing and 152 00:05:11,430 --> 00:05:09,759 then this vibration that we felt in the 153 00:05:14,550 --> 00:05:11,440 apartment complex 154 00:05:16,390 --> 00:05:14,560 happened had to happen at the same time 155 00:05:19,029 --> 00:05:16,400 because i connected the two and they 156 00:05:21,110 --> 00:05:19,039 were at recess around 11 11 30 between 157 00:05:21,990 --> 00:05:21,120 11 11 30 and that's when this vibration 158 00:05:22,710 --> 00:05:22,000 started 159 00:05:24,070 --> 00:05:22,720 and 160 00:05:25,990 --> 00:05:24,080 it only lasted for i would say the 161 00:05:27,590 --> 00:05:26,000 vibration only lasted for 162 00:05:29,029 --> 00:05:27,600 all 163 00:05:30,629 --> 00:05:29,039 uh 164 00:05:35,430 --> 00:05:30,639 10 165 00:05:37,590 --> 00:05:35,440 so uh 166 00:05:39,110 --> 00:05:37,600 so i i think it's i think it's uh it's 167 00:05:43,350 --> 00:05:39,120 just 168 00:05:47,350 --> 00:05:45,909 i'm surprised that uh others at the 169 00:05:48,710 --> 00:05:47,360 school didn't see it but i haven't 170 00:05:51,189 --> 00:05:48,720 really gone over there i was going to 171 00:05:53,110 --> 00:05:51,199 take the drawings that these 172 00:05:55,270 --> 00:05:53,120 little girls made and take them over and 173 00:05:57,189 --> 00:05:55,280 ask perhaps if someone 174 00:05:58,870 --> 00:05:57,199 maybe an adult teacher or someone else 175 00:06:00,550 --> 00:05:58,880 might have seen it 176 00:06:01,350 --> 00:06:00,560 okay did they actually see this object 177 00:06:07,830 --> 00:06:01,360 leave 178 00:06:09,990 --> 00:06:07,840 no they all went into the um 179 00:06:12,070 --> 00:06:10,000 they all went back into the classroom oh 180 00:06:13,270 --> 00:06:12,080 i see yeah and uh she said when she 181 00:06:16,070 --> 00:06:13,280 looked over her shoulder it was still 182 00:06:20,390 --> 00:06:17,749 okay did they give any estimate of how 183 00:06:23,029 --> 00:06:20,400 high that thing was yeah yeah 184 00:06:24,309 --> 00:06:23,039 yeah i was trying to i was trying to i 185 00:06:25,350 --> 00:06:24,319 was trying to 186 00:06:29,749 --> 00:06:25,360 uh 187 00:06:30,469 --> 00:06:29,759 have her give me an idea and 188 00:06:33,990 --> 00:06:30,479 i 189 00:06:35,990 --> 00:06:34,000 poles and 190 00:06:38,150 --> 00:06:36,000 it would be my guess she pointed to a 191 00:06:40,070 --> 00:06:38,160 really high pole and it would be my 192 00:06:41,110 --> 00:06:40,080 guess it was 193 00:06:42,950 --> 00:06:41,120 uh 194 00:06:44,230 --> 00:06:42,960 oh at least several hundred 195 00:06:46,309 --> 00:06:44,240 feet maybe 196 00:06:48,710 --> 00:06:46,319 several hundred feet off the ground 197 00:06:50,629 --> 00:06:48,720 but some but from the way she describes 198 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:50,639 it as large as she described it like 199 00:06:58,150 --> 00:06:56,550 [Music] 200 00:07:02,870 --> 00:06:58,160 yeah 201 00:07:04,469 --> 00:07:02,880 see see my wife was saying that after 202 00:07:06,390 --> 00:07:04,479 she drew the picture 203 00:07:09,350 --> 00:07:06,400 we have a uh 204 00:07:11,589 --> 00:07:09,360 a film can here it's like a can they put 205 00:07:13,189 --> 00:07:11,599 film in and i said uh 206 00:07:15,029 --> 00:07:13,199 well well the funny part of it was when 207 00:07:16,790 --> 00:07:15,039 it did the drawings i said now you draw 208 00:07:18,469 --> 00:07:16,800 what it looked like so she drew her 209 00:07:19,749 --> 00:07:18,479 classmates on the ground on a separate 210 00:07:22,390 --> 00:07:19,759 piece of paper and 211 00:07:24,870 --> 00:07:22,400 the playground was the trees and swings 212 00:07:27,270 --> 00:07:24,880 and she named each of her friends 213 00:07:29,589 --> 00:07:27,280 and and then uh she drew on another 214 00:07:31,510 --> 00:07:29,599 piece of paper the round object and she 215 00:07:34,150 --> 00:07:31,520 drew it perfectly round and around the 216 00:07:35,589 --> 00:07:34,160 the perimeter she put these two rings 217 00:07:37,430 --> 00:07:35,599 that were coming out from it and then 218 00:07:40,230 --> 00:07:37,440 right in the center she drew 219 00:07:41,270 --> 00:07:40,240 a a smaller circle which she colored 220 00:07:42,469 --> 00:07:41,280 yellow 221 00:07:44,550 --> 00:07:42,479 so 222 00:07:45,830 --> 00:07:44,560 she was trying to i was looking at her 223 00:07:48,469 --> 00:07:45,840 she didn't know i was watching her but 224 00:07:50,230 --> 00:07:48,479 she she was told because she put the 225 00:07:52,869 --> 00:07:50,240 piece of paper that had the 226 00:07:54,869 --> 00:07:52,879 the object on it above the piece of 227 00:07:56,710 --> 00:07:54,879 paper that had her she and her 228 00:07:59,990 --> 00:07:56,720 classmates playing 229 00:08:02,309 --> 00:08:00,000 and uh and she wasn't and she wasn't uh 230 00:08:04,790 --> 00:08:02,319 she knew she wasn't quite getting it uh 231 00:08:06,950 --> 00:08:04,800 the way she wanted it so my wife put the 232 00:08:09,029 --> 00:08:06,960 paper on what she drew the object at 233 00:08:10,390 --> 00:08:09,039 right angles and she says yes she says 234 00:08:12,710 --> 00:08:10,400 that's that's how it was like right 235 00:08:14,710 --> 00:08:12,720 above us so then we held up this film 236 00:08:16,469 --> 00:08:14,720 can and we said now was it solid looking 237 00:08:18,469 --> 00:08:16,479 like this was it metallic looking and 238 00:08:20,469 --> 00:08:18,479 she says yes she says with silver and 239 00:08:22,469 --> 00:08:20,479 metallic looking 240 00:08:24,710 --> 00:08:22,479 and uh 241 00:08:26,550 --> 00:08:24,720 so the size of it 242 00:08:28,790 --> 00:08:26,560 if it was as if it was larger than this 243 00:08:30,550 --> 00:08:28,800 circle it had to be quite low because 244 00:08:33,829 --> 00:08:30,560 this circle as i said is at least 30 245 00:08:36,550 --> 00:08:33,839 feet in in diameter 246 00:08:38,949 --> 00:08:36,560 so uh she she gave as good a description 247 00:08:41,110 --> 00:08:38,959 of it of something that you could uh 248 00:08:43,909 --> 00:08:41,120 certainly ever ever hope for did they 249 00:08:46,310 --> 00:08:43,919 hear any sound no i asked her and she 250 00:08:47,990 --> 00:08:46,320 says no there was no sound 251 00:08:49,670 --> 00:08:48,000 but and when she said when we asked if 252 00:08:51,430 --> 00:08:49,680 there was if there was any sound she 253 00:08:53,430 --> 00:08:51,440 said there was no sound that's when i 254 00:08:55,030 --> 00:08:53,440 kicked next that's when i remember the 255 00:08:55,990 --> 00:08:55,040 vibration 256 00:08:59,269 --> 00:08:56,000 okay 257 00:09:01,990 --> 00:08:59,279 and so whatever that vibration was 258 00:09:04,150 --> 00:09:02,000 it was uh it was very unsettling the 259 00:09:06,389 --> 00:09:04,160 vibration when it when it started it was 260 00:09:09,190 --> 00:09:06,399 really unsettling because it was like a 261 00:09:11,190 --> 00:09:09,200 high intensity vibration and that is the 262 00:09:13,269 --> 00:09:11,200 decision things weren't rattling it was 263 00:09:14,630 --> 00:09:13,279 like a very high 264 00:09:17,110 --> 00:09:14,640 uh um 265 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:17,120 or however you might describe it things 266 00:09:22,710 --> 00:09:20,320 are just like like humming uh-huh 267 00:09:25,030 --> 00:09:22,720 okay 268 00:09:27,350 --> 00:09:25,040 and how old was she she's seven seven 269 00:09:30,550 --> 00:09:28,550 i asked her if the rest of her 270 00:09:31,990 --> 00:09:30,560 classmates saw and she said uh well she 271 00:09:34,070 --> 00:09:32,000 didn't know because they were looking up 272 00:09:35,590 --> 00:09:34,080 at it but she uh 273 00:09:37,590 --> 00:09:35,600 she wasn't the first one to see it was 274 00:09:39,269 --> 00:09:37,600 her friend and then about four 275 00:09:40,630 --> 00:09:39,279 of her friends were all looking up at it 276 00:09:41,990 --> 00:09:40,640 she said and and 277 00:09:44,470 --> 00:09:42,000 and she said they were looking straight 278 00:09:45,990 --> 00:09:44,480 up at it so she trained her 279 00:09:47,990 --> 00:09:46,000 put her head back and 280 00:09:49,829 --> 00:09:48,000 it had to be almost directly overhead 281 00:09:51,350 --> 00:09:49,839 okay did they actually see this thing 282 00:09:54,550 --> 00:09:51,360 descending towards them or was it 283 00:09:56,870 --> 00:09:54,560 stationary i i don't know i don't know 284 00:09:59,509 --> 00:09:56,880 when this uh when thought i would have 285 00:10:01,509 --> 00:09:59,519 to have to ask her that did she 286 00:10:03,670 --> 00:10:01,519 mention how many were in that group of 287 00:10:05,110 --> 00:10:03,680 children about i would say about four or 288 00:10:07,590 --> 00:10:05,120 five 289 00:10:09,110 --> 00:10:07,600 okay yeah she knows them by name because 290 00:10:11,110 --> 00:10:09,120 i guess they all 291 00:10:12,949 --> 00:10:11,120 they're all the same age 292 00:10:14,949 --> 00:10:12,959 do you still have those drawings well 293 00:10:17,350 --> 00:10:14,959 yeah yeah we have the drawings and 294 00:10:19,269 --> 00:10:17,360 they're uh they're really they're you 295 00:10:20,550 --> 00:10:19,279 know they're really 296 00:10:22,069 --> 00:10:20,560 uh 297 00:10:23,670 --> 00:10:22,079 they're humorous because the way she 298 00:10:25,750 --> 00:10:23,680 does the the relationship with the 299 00:10:28,310 --> 00:10:25,760 children and then they uh 300 00:10:30,310 --> 00:10:28,320 and then this object 301 00:10:32,630 --> 00:10:30,320 okay is there any possibility of getting 302 00:10:35,190 --> 00:10:32,640 those oh sure sure 303 00:10:37,350 --> 00:10:35,200 be happy to get a letter off to you 304 00:10:38,790 --> 00:10:37,360 about that 305 00:10:41,110 --> 00:10:38,800 all right sir well we sure appreciate 306 00:10:43,350 --> 00:10:41,120 this report and we're going to check 307 00:10:45,509 --> 00:10:43,360 into this right away and see if we can't 308 00:10:48,310 --> 00:10:45,519 come up with some information on it 309 00:10:51,110 --> 00:10:48,320 and uh it's uh the object which she has 310 00:10:53,430 --> 00:10:51,120 described where you described to me 311 00:10:55,990 --> 00:10:53,440 would uh fit the category of what we 312 00:10:59,110 --> 00:10:56,000 refer to as the saturn type object the 313 00:11:01,030 --> 00:10:59,120 sphere surrounded by 314 00:11:03,350 --> 00:11:01,040 rotating bands 315 00:11:06,230 --> 00:11:03,360 or colored bands right down through the 316 00:11:11,350 --> 00:11:08,949 and uh 317 00:11:13,110 --> 00:11:11,360 it comes a surprise that this uh took 318 00:11:20,630 --> 00:11:13,120 place in broad daylight like this 319 00:11:23,910 --> 00:11:22,550 but we're going to uh we'll check into 320 00:11:26,150 --> 00:11:23,920 it anyway see if we can't come up with 321 00:11:27,590 --> 00:11:26,160 some more information and uh if we get 322 00:11:29,030 --> 00:11:27,600 it we'll get back to you and let you 323 00:11:30,389 --> 00:11:29,040 know okay 324 00:11:35,750 --> 00:11:30,399 okay well thank you now thank you very 325 00:11:39,750 --> 00:11:37,269 yes sir i'm calling for the ufo 326 00:11:42,069 --> 00:11:39,760 reporting center in washington oh yes 327 00:11:44,710 --> 00:11:42,079 and we had an unnamed caller left a 328 00:11:45,990 --> 00:11:44,720 message at our office today regarding uh 329 00:11:47,670 --> 00:11:46,000 something that you were supposed to have 330 00:11:49,590 --> 00:11:47,680 seen several days ago 331 00:11:52,230 --> 00:11:49,600 uh where are you calling from 332 00:11:54,470 --> 00:11:52,240 seattle washington oh no that was my son 333 00:11:56,470 --> 00:11:54,480 left you that i see 334 00:11:58,710 --> 00:11:56,480 no that was i didn't see it myself this 335 00:11:59,590 --> 00:11:58,720 happened about a block away from where i 336 00:12:02,470 --> 00:11:59,600 live 337 00:12:04,870 --> 00:12:02,480 about 15 school children saw it 338 00:12:06,710 --> 00:12:04,880 and the teacher oh i see 339 00:12:08,069 --> 00:12:06,720 and one of the school children was my 340 00:12:09,590 --> 00:12:08,079 daughter 341 00:12:11,430 --> 00:12:09,600 that's how it came to mind what was a 342 00:12:13,350 --> 00:12:11,440 wonderful fight 343 00:12:16,310 --> 00:12:13,360 the thing hung there for five minutes 344 00:12:18,150 --> 00:12:16,320 and all the kids just stared at it 345 00:12:19,430 --> 00:12:18,160 uh 346 00:12:21,110 --> 00:12:19,440 do you want me to tell you about it yes 347 00:12:37,190 --> 00:12:21,120 sir we'd like to hear all about it well 348 00:12:41,269 --> 00:12:40,230 it right behind the school 349 00:12:43,190 --> 00:12:41,279 and uh 350 00:12:45,030 --> 00:12:43,200 at 8 30 351 00:12:46,629 --> 00:12:45,040 they saw this thing go down in that 352 00:12:48,230 --> 00:12:46,639 canyon now whether it ever landed there 353 00:12:49,430 --> 00:12:48,240 or just hovered down in there i don't 354 00:12:50,230 --> 00:12:49,440 know 355 00:12:51,509 --> 00:12:50,240 and 356 00:12:53,030 --> 00:12:51,519 they were trying to climb there was a 357 00:12:53,829 --> 00:12:53,040 fence around the playground of course 358 00:12:55,110 --> 00:12:53,839 and they couldn't get out of the 359 00:12:56,550 --> 00:12:55,120 playground but they were trying to climb 360 00:12:58,550 --> 00:12:56,560 the fence so they could look down into 361 00:13:00,949 --> 00:12:58,560 cannon but they couldn't see it 362 00:13:02,870 --> 00:13:00,959 and then an hour later at 9 30 this 363 00:13:04,550 --> 00:13:02,880 thing came up out of the canyon 364 00:13:05,670 --> 00:13:04,560 and just hovered right at eye level 365 00:13:07,030 --> 00:13:05,680 where they could look right in the 366 00:13:10,710 --> 00:13:07,040 windows and everything see the people 367 00:13:13,509 --> 00:13:11,430 and 368 00:13:14,790 --> 00:13:13,519 it just it just over there for about 369 00:13:16,710 --> 00:13:14,800 five minutes 370 00:13:20,310 --> 00:13:16,720 and and finally it raised up and they 371 00:13:23,110 --> 00:13:20,320 came over and it circled the school yard 372 00:13:25,110 --> 00:13:23,120 and uh with all the kids looking at it 373 00:13:27,190 --> 00:13:25,120 and then it they say it disappeared just 374 00:13:29,509 --> 00:13:27,200 by going right straight up in the air or 375 00:13:31,430 --> 00:13:29,519 disappeared out of sight 376 00:13:32,470 --> 00:13:31,440 now the strange thing about this whole 377 00:13:34,069 --> 00:13:32,480 thing 378 00:13:35,430 --> 00:13:34,079 they run in and tell their teacher what 379 00:13:38,230 --> 00:13:35,440 they saw and the teacher said just 380 00:13:39,670 --> 00:13:38,240 forget it forget you saw anything 381 00:13:41,910 --> 00:13:39,680 and uh 382 00:13:43,430 --> 00:13:41,920 i can't understand that mentality 383 00:13:45,269 --> 00:13:43,440 they just baffled me even and the 384 00:13:47,350 --> 00:13:45,279 teacher that stood there and saw it with 385 00:13:50,069 --> 00:13:47,360 him told the kids to forget they saw 386 00:13:52,389 --> 00:13:50,079 anything right well we run into this 387 00:13:54,389 --> 00:13:52,399 yes it just didn't 388 00:13:56,150 --> 00:13:54,399 it baffles me and enrages me at the same 389 00:13:58,069 --> 00:13:56,160 time that they would tell my 390 00:14:00,069 --> 00:13:58,079 you know to see a ufo was one of the 391 00:14:01,829 --> 00:14:00,079 sites seeing a century 392 00:14:02,949 --> 00:14:01,839 one of the great sites if you're lucky 393 00:14:04,629 --> 00:14:02,959 enough to see one and they're my 394 00:14:06,629 --> 00:14:04,639 daughter soul and then told 395 00:14:08,629 --> 00:14:06,639 you know told to forget about it right 396 00:14:11,189 --> 00:14:08,639 uh how old was your daughter he's ten 397 00:14:13,509 --> 00:14:11,199 two two ten that's a good observing age 398 00:14:15,269 --> 00:14:13,519 yeah and there was a girl that had a 399 00:14:17,430 --> 00:14:15,279 pair of binoculars just had a bear they 400 00:14:18,870 --> 00:14:17,440 were going to watch birds or something 401 00:14:20,949 --> 00:14:18,880 and she watched these things through 402 00:14:22,389 --> 00:14:20,959 binoculars and we went over the house to 403 00:14:24,310 --> 00:14:22,399 see her 404 00:14:26,389 --> 00:14:24,320 and because the teacher we didn't see 405 00:14:28,550 --> 00:14:26,399 her now she wasn't there but my wife saw 406 00:14:31,110 --> 00:14:28,560 her later that day in a store and she 407 00:14:33,750 --> 00:14:32,389 i didn't see anything we didn't see 408 00:14:35,430 --> 00:14:33,760 anything 409 00:14:38,310 --> 00:14:35,440 and the girl was probably the best that 410 00:14:41,269 --> 00:14:38,320 saw the thing best of all you know 411 00:14:42,710 --> 00:14:41,279 but turned off by the teacher's attitude 412 00:14:45,030 --> 00:14:42,720 and another little boy that was all 413 00:14:47,030 --> 00:14:45,040 excited about it and everything like 414 00:14:48,310 --> 00:14:47,040 his reaction was the same thing uh that 415 00:14:50,310 --> 00:14:48,320 wasn't nothing 416 00:14:52,790 --> 00:14:50,320 but at the time my daughter was telling 417 00:14:54,550 --> 00:14:52,800 me he was all excited he knew what a ufo 418 00:14:56,470 --> 00:14:54,560 was and everything but 419 00:14:59,350 --> 00:14:56,480 that they turned them off on it did you 420 00:15:00,870 --> 00:14:59,360 run into that all the time oh yes sure 421 00:15:03,350 --> 00:15:00,880 now do you remember the exact date on 422 00:15:05,910 --> 00:15:03,360 that yeah it was uh 423 00:15:07,350 --> 00:15:05,920 friday a week ago 424 00:15:08,949 --> 00:15:07,360 in the morning 425 00:15:10,870 --> 00:15:08,959 i'd had to get a counter take that would 426 00:15:13,590 --> 00:15:10,880 be a week ago last friday this last 427 00:15:16,550 --> 00:15:13,600 friday 428 00:15:19,430 --> 00:15:16,560 yeah that's right yeah that's right 429 00:15:22,629 --> 00:15:20,870 you know the real story is to get these 430 00:15:24,870 --> 00:15:22,639 kids together and get them 431 00:15:25,590 --> 00:15:24,880 within let them tell you what they saw 432 00:15:27,350 --> 00:15:25,600 but 433 00:15:28,710 --> 00:15:27,360 it was uh oh we did talk to some other 434 00:15:30,550 --> 00:15:28,720 kids that 435 00:15:31,990 --> 00:15:30,560 that uh thought there was about five 436 00:15:34,790 --> 00:15:32,000 kids in one family and they were all 437 00:15:35,590 --> 00:15:34,800 excited about it and uh 438 00:15:37,749 --> 00:15:35,600 and 439 00:15:44,389 --> 00:15:37,759 i tried to collaborate what everyone 440 00:15:48,470 --> 00:15:46,470 but my daughter says it did make a noise 441 00:15:49,829 --> 00:15:48,480 like a slight roar you know 442 00:15:51,269 --> 00:15:49,839 but they all agreed on the color and 443 00:15:52,629 --> 00:15:51,279 they all agreed that it had windows in 444 00:15:54,550 --> 00:15:52,639 the side they all agreed that you could 445 00:15:55,430 --> 00:15:54,560 look in and see 446 00:16:00,790 --> 00:15:55,440 people 447 00:16:02,629 --> 00:16:00,800 the one boy said they look like the head 448 00:16:04,150 --> 00:16:02,639 mask over their faces 449 00:16:06,790 --> 00:16:04,160 and my little girl said they look like 450 00:16:09,430 --> 00:16:06,800 their faces were all rough like 451 00:16:12,069 --> 00:16:09,440 funny observation you know yeah 452 00:16:13,749 --> 00:16:12,079 but they generally agreed where it was 453 00:16:16,150 --> 00:16:13,759 what it did and how it disappeared they 454 00:16:18,389 --> 00:16:16,160 all agreed on that you know it just it 455 00:16:20,069 --> 00:16:18,399 circled over the schoolyard and just 456 00:16:21,590 --> 00:16:20,079 went right on straight up in the air and 457 00:16:24,389 --> 00:16:21,600 they never saw it again 458 00:16:26,629 --> 00:16:24,399 now this is a ufo this is no 459 00:16:28,389 --> 00:16:26,639 helicopter or an airplane because my 460 00:16:31,269 --> 00:16:28,399 little girl has seen thousands of them 461 00:16:32,870 --> 00:16:31,279 you know she could possibly have okay 462 00:16:35,110 --> 00:16:32,880 what kind of description did she give of 463 00:16:37,350 --> 00:16:35,120 this vehicle 464 00:16:39,749 --> 00:16:37,360 silver silver silver 465 00:16:41,350 --> 00:16:39,759 and she said it daddy looked just like a 466 00:16:42,629 --> 00:16:41,360 plate it was flat on the bottom and 467 00:16:44,790 --> 00:16:42,639 round on the top 468 00:16:47,670 --> 00:16:44,800 the traditional saucer thing you know 469 00:16:49,590 --> 00:16:47,680 right and uh and it had 470 00:16:52,389 --> 00:16:49,600 and they made another observation here 471 00:16:53,110 --> 00:16:52,399 that as it caught the light of the sun 472 00:16:54,790 --> 00:16:53,120 uh 473 00:16:57,110 --> 00:16:54,800 certain 474 00:16:58,710 --> 00:16:57,120 parts of it would just flash 475 00:17:00,870 --> 00:16:58,720 brilliantly now whether that was just 476 00:17:07,909 --> 00:17:00,880 the 477 00:17:10,470 --> 00:17:07,919 object itself you know right but it 478 00:17:11,590 --> 00:17:10,480 flashed brilliantly and it had lights on 479 00:17:12,710 --> 00:17:11,600 it 480 00:17:16,230 --> 00:17:12,720 yellow 481 00:17:18,230 --> 00:17:16,240 blue light on it that blinked 482 00:17:20,870 --> 00:17:18,240 and that object actually came up over 483 00:17:22,230 --> 00:17:20,880 the schoolyard came up yeah but the best 484 00:17:24,150 --> 00:17:22,240 observation was when it come out his 485 00:17:26,069 --> 00:17:24,160 little canyon behind that went down in 486 00:17:27,669 --> 00:17:26,079 that canyon i'm disabled right now and 487 00:17:29,669 --> 00:17:27,679 i'm on crutches and i couldn't really 488 00:17:32,950 --> 00:17:29,679 get around very good down there 489 00:17:35,830 --> 00:17:32,960 and it we covered about maybe one-fourth 490 00:17:37,029 --> 00:17:35,840 of the canyon the next the next two days 491 00:17:38,630 --> 00:17:37,039 trying to see if we can see anything 492 00:17:40,710 --> 00:17:38,640 down there you know but 493 00:17:42,390 --> 00:17:40,720 like it's so bushy 494 00:17:45,350 --> 00:17:42,400 and hard to get around there i really 495 00:17:47,430 --> 00:17:45,360 couldn't go over it right 496 00:17:49,750 --> 00:17:47,440 you take a table body you know two or 497 00:17:52,390 --> 00:17:49,760 three able-bodied men could go over that 498 00:17:55,029 --> 00:17:52,400 in an hour right yeah right because it's 499 00:17:57,190 --> 00:17:55,039 just a small can just a little thing 500 00:17:58,549 --> 00:17:57,200 okay did your daughter make any drawings 501 00:18:00,470 --> 00:17:58,559 or sketches yeah she did make me a 502 00:18:02,789 --> 00:18:00,480 little drawing yeah 503 00:18:04,230 --> 00:18:02,799 i asked her to draw me 504 00:18:05,909 --> 00:18:04,240 we had her i guess she still got it i 505 00:18:09,830 --> 00:18:05,919 don't know what's around here 506 00:18:12,549 --> 00:18:10,710 okay 507 00:18:13,430 --> 00:18:12,559 and how many witnesses or kids do you 508 00:18:16,470 --> 00:18:13,440 think there 509 00:18:17,830 --> 00:18:16,480 with at least 15 kids 510 00:18:23,190 --> 00:18:17,840 and the teacher 511 00:18:25,750 --> 00:18:23,200 uh 512 00:18:27,190 --> 00:18:25,760 but i've forgotten right now okay anyway 513 00:18:29,830 --> 00:18:27,200 but you know i 514 00:18:32,789 --> 00:18:29,840 i called a san diego paper they had no 515 00:18:34,710 --> 00:18:32,799 interest in it at all i called channel 8 516 00:18:37,430 --> 00:18:34,720 which is the local tv and they had no 517 00:18:38,870 --> 00:18:37,440 interest in at all i i felt society i 518 00:18:40,710 --> 00:18:38,880 was disappointed i thought 519 00:18:42,470 --> 00:18:40,720 society was more sophisticated at this 520 00:18:43,830 --> 00:18:42,480 time and that sort of thing 521 00:18:45,510 --> 00:18:43,840 but they 522 00:18:47,190 --> 00:18:45,520 they're hung up on their old spheres i 523 00:18:49,029 --> 00:18:47,200 guess they always did you know something 524 00:18:51,669 --> 00:18:49,039 you don't understand 525 00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:51,679 forget it right 526 00:18:57,110 --> 00:18:53,760 well this is very interesting and as 527 00:18:59,190 --> 00:18:57,120 much as we had a 528 00:19:02,390 --> 00:18:59,200 somewhat similar incident happen near 529 00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:02,400 downey on the first monday or the second 530 00:19:07,110 --> 00:19:04,720 monday the second of may up and down 531 00:19:08,950 --> 00:19:07,120 yeah right uh 532 00:19:10,470 --> 00:19:08,960 yeah right the object came down right 533 00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:10,480 over the schoolyard right in the middle 534 00:19:14,630 --> 00:19:12,960 of recess it did well the same thing 535 00:19:16,710 --> 00:19:14,640 happened here yeah 536 00:19:19,590 --> 00:19:16,720 and why was that described just as a 537 00:19:22,830 --> 00:19:19,600 very bright silver object they couldn't 538 00:19:25,909 --> 00:19:22,840 make out any real uh structural 539 00:19:28,310 --> 00:19:25,919 uh parts on the object 540 00:19:30,310 --> 00:19:28,320 of the brilliant light and 541 00:19:32,470 --> 00:19:30,320 of course the in this particular case 542 00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:32,480 the students they got 543 00:19:36,549 --> 00:19:34,320 quite panic stricken and ran into the 544 00:19:39,190 --> 00:19:36,559 school and uh by the time they looked 545 00:19:41,029 --> 00:19:39,200 back out again the thing had gone 546 00:19:43,669 --> 00:19:41,039 what day was that was that anywhere near 547 00:19:44,870 --> 00:19:43,679 the friday that uh it was may 2nd monday 548 00:19:46,870 --> 00:19:44,880 may 2nd 549 00:19:48,150 --> 00:19:46,880 so that was in the same week 550 00:19:50,310 --> 00:19:48,160 right 551 00:19:52,310 --> 00:19:50,320 that's interesting 552 00:19:53,830 --> 00:19:52,320 but they didn't have the same situation 553 00:19:55,750 --> 00:19:53,840 there where the teachers told the kids 554 00:19:58,390 --> 00:19:55,760 or maybe they were my knowledge not when 555 00:19:59,830 --> 00:19:58,400 i talked to the one of the girl's father 556 00:20:02,310 --> 00:19:59,840 and uh 557 00:20:03,990 --> 00:20:02,320 he had uh 558 00:20:06,870 --> 00:20:04,000 pretty well quizzed his daughter 559 00:20:09,190 --> 00:20:06,880 regarding the incident and he was going 560 00:20:10,789 --> 00:20:09,200 to get in contact with other parents 561 00:20:12,310 --> 00:20:10,799 whose children were involved and see if 562 00:20:14,310 --> 00:20:12,320 they couldn't correlate all the 563 00:20:16,630 --> 00:20:14,320 information was that were they older or 564 00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:16,640 what what grade were they 565 00:20:19,350 --> 00:20:17,760 great school 566 00:20:21,270 --> 00:20:19,360 elementary huh right yeah this is 567 00:20:23,029 --> 00:20:21,280 elementary time 568 00:20:25,270 --> 00:20:23,039 up to sixth grade i think his daughter 569 00:20:26,230 --> 00:20:25,280 was about seven and a half oh something 570 00:20:28,390 --> 00:20:26,240 like that 571 00:20:30,070 --> 00:20:28,400 and uh how how many people saw it how 572 00:20:31,750 --> 00:20:30,080 many children saw it i don't remember 573 00:20:32,710 --> 00:20:31,760 the group but it's pretty large group of 574 00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:32,720 kids 575 00:20:36,630 --> 00:20:35,200 she's only five days away huh they saw 576 00:20:39,350 --> 00:20:36,640 it on monday and then this thing was 577 00:20:40,870 --> 00:20:39,360 seen again on that same friday 578 00:20:42,630 --> 00:20:40,880 what in the world it would do what would 579 00:20:44,789 --> 00:20:42,640 it be doing down in that canyon for an 580 00:20:47,270 --> 00:20:44,799 hour 581 00:20:48,950 --> 00:20:47,280 do you have any ideas well of course in 582 00:20:50,870 --> 00:20:48,960 down in the canyons like that is quite 583 00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:50,880 common for these vehicles but what is 584 00:20:55,110 --> 00:20:53,200 really important is the fact that uh the 585 00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:55,120 incident occurred during daylight hours 586 00:20:58,630 --> 00:20:56,799 which is very rare 587 00:21:00,230 --> 00:20:58,640 yeah oh was the other one in the evening 588 00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:00,240 or something no that was 11 o'clock in 589 00:21:18,149 --> 00:21:16,870 we're getting out of the way radar huh 590 00:21:19,909 --> 00:21:18,159 oh 591 00:21:21,590 --> 00:21:19,919 and down there they my daughter 592 00:21:23,510 --> 00:21:21,600 remembers that it was exactly an hour 593 00:21:25,830 --> 00:21:23,520 because she saw it and she remembered 594 00:21:27,190 --> 00:21:25,840 they come out for recess at 9 30 again 595 00:21:29,590 --> 00:21:27,200 and then when they come up out of the 596 00:21:30,789 --> 00:21:29,600 canyon she happened to see achieve their 597 00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:30,799 kids all stood there with their mouth 598 00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:32,400 hanging open 599 00:21:36,070 --> 00:21:34,240 okay if we got a questionnaire off to 600 00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:36,080 you could you kind of uh work with your 601 00:21:40,470 --> 00:21:37,679 daughter to fill that in yeah i'd like 602 00:21:42,310 --> 00:21:40,480 to also if we could get uh some 603 00:21:44,070 --> 00:21:42,320 investigators in there would you kind of 604 00:21:46,070 --> 00:21:44,080 operate as a hub 605 00:21:47,750 --> 00:21:46,080 to get them started i would be glad to 606 00:21:50,149 --> 00:21:47,760 cooperate with anybody it just 607 00:21:52,070 --> 00:21:50,159 infuriates me that they they're gonna 608 00:21:54,149 --> 00:21:52,080 just uh you know 609 00:21:55,590 --> 00:21:54,159 ignore the whole thing 610 00:21:56,549 --> 00:21:55,600 where did your son finally get our 611 00:21:58,870 --> 00:21:56,559 number 612 00:22:00,470 --> 00:21:58,880 i gave 613 00:22:02,390 --> 00:22:00,480 department and they gave me your number 614 00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:02,400 right but since i don't have so much i 615 00:22:07,029 --> 00:22:04,799 don't have very much money right now 616 00:22:08,549 --> 00:22:07,039 uh i didn't call because i found out i 617 00:22:09,669 --> 00:22:08,559 was out of town i just couldn't afford 618 00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:09,679 it so 619 00:22:11,990 --> 00:22:10,480 uh 620 00:22:13,909 --> 00:22:12,000 he had more money you give me a number 621 00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:13,919 i'll call it so he did 622 00:22:17,110 --> 00:22:15,600 that's how that happened but if you want 623 00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:17,120 to send anybody around i'd be glad to 624 00:22:20,310 --> 00:22:19,200 cooperate and show them where it is in 625 00:22:22,630 --> 00:22:20,320 the canyon 626 00:22:25,830 --> 00:22:22,640 was there any estimated distance between 627 00:22:27,430 --> 00:22:25,840 the witnesses and the object i uh i 628 00:22:29,029 --> 00:22:27,440 estimate that i don't think it could 629 00:22:30,870 --> 00:22:29,039 have been over a hundred foot 630 00:22:32,230 --> 00:22:30,880 they were right on top of things staring 631 00:22:33,669 --> 00:22:32,240 right into it 632 00:22:35,750 --> 00:22:33,679 yeah you know it would you know the 633 00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:35,760 average fly as you know the average 634 00:22:40,230 --> 00:22:38,720 flying saucer or ufo sighting is 635 00:22:41,909 --> 00:22:40,240 we saw two objects fight at 636 00:22:43,990 --> 00:22:41,919 approximately five thousand feet going 637 00:22:45,510 --> 00:22:44,000 northwest or something right well 638 00:22:48,390 --> 00:22:45,520 they're valueless they're this is a 639 00:22:49,830 --> 00:22:48,400 wonderful sighting the ground level and 640 00:22:52,149 --> 00:22:49,840 and they're gonna 641 00:22:53,750 --> 00:22:52,159 just ignore it i can't believe it well 642 00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:53,760 we'll get somebody in there to dig that 643 00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:55,600 out i wish you would 644 00:22:59,430 --> 00:22:57,200 i don't have the time or i can't do it 645 00:23:01,270 --> 00:22:59,440 because i'm disabled but i'll cooperate 646 00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:01,280 i'd love to cooperate with you well we 647 00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:03,360 sure appreciate that very much okay and 648 00:23:08,149 --> 00:23:04,960 thank you again for talking to me are 649 00:23:09,510 --> 00:23:08,159 you is this the hub or ufo information 650 00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:09,520 is sent in or 651 00:23:14,710 --> 00:23:11,760 well it's a national center 652 00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:14,720 but uh we're a private uh scientific 653 00:23:18,630 --> 00:23:17,120 organization working on this subject oh 654 00:23:20,149 --> 00:23:18,640 is that right right 655 00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:20,159 it's not in any way associated with the 656 00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:22,240 government oh so it's all by public i 657 00:23:25,430 --> 00:23:23,760 mean 658 00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:25,440 it's a self-funded 659 00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:27,120 organization right yeah 660 00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:29,120 good all right well i'm glad to hear it 661 00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:31,200 i'll send somebody around we'll dig that